Comments on: What the heck …..

By: Marie

Marie — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:14:19 +0000

With changes taking place at a quick pace in America and worldwide, I believe people will start to look to “spiritual leaders” and the church for answers. I base this statement on what I know to be true from the 70’s. That was the time my mom became a christian. Her decision to follow Christ, instead of Church Leaders greatly affected how our family progressed spiritually. With long gas lines, sugar going to I believe $6 for a 10 lb bag, and society opening up more to what I would call “humanism” a major shift people’s faith in the government as their provider and protector deminished. Now we live in such a global world with rapid change, upheavel and uncertainty, my heart tells me to stay close to Jesus, and be available to share God’s message of acceptance, provision, and most importantly salvation. I don’t have time to really review what I wrote. I have to get ready for work. Have a great day. (By the way Doug, Steve is my husband - just in case you didn’t know. We are blogging together). He is a avid weight lifter and health conscious person. I was into excercise and health concerns in the past. My goal is to start focusing on those areas again myself. I am busy training at my new job. So once that settles down, I will focus on health again. I know I just blabbing. I’ll sign off.

By: Doug Meikle

Doug Meikle — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0000

Oh, and another thing, dont you think the media reaction to Obama and many citizens reaction to him speaks to their perceived need of a savior. That should first give is hope as Christians. We face a nation in need of a Saviour and we have one to offer. On the other hand, it also shows we could do a better job of offering up the power of our Lord Jesus Christ as a practical solution to our everyday problems.

By: Doug Meikle

Doug Meikle — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:13:20 +0000

You are right on the article, the key point is really at the end. What a leap of faith we will take with Barak Obama if that is the choice of the nation.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:59:13 +0000

You wrote: “If we vote in Obama we are taking a groundbreaking risk but, given the circumstances, maybe it’s worth it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/10/28/do2806.xml”

I don’t think the article really tries to make a case for either candidate, but rather an analysis of why it appears that Obama will win. In short: he’s not a Republican, whereas George Bush is, and John McCain is.

In general, the American electorate blames the party in the White House for economic problems, and punishes accordingly. There is some logic to this, but of course it ignores the bi-partisan avarice and corruption of the legislative branch, as well as the greed of the public.

Mr. McCain is certainly a Republican, and seems to have both heroic aspects as well as feet of clay. In contrast, I think the article accurately portrays the near-worship of Mr. Obama that is trendy in certain quarters. He is eloquent, and bright, and likable. He seems to have great potential. However, I think that a person’s actions and history yield more insight into who they are than the things that they say. I have doubts about Obama based on the long-time associations in his past that were continued until it became expedient for appearance sake to discontinue them. Who is he really, deep down? We may be about to find out. Worshiping a false messiah is not without its risks.

I thought the ending of the article was actually somewhat cautionary and worth noting:

“The reverence with which Mr Obama is regarded by most of the American media, and by much of the American elite, is such that, when I see him on television, I look — so far in vain — for the stigmata on his hands. This feeling is entirely appropriate, for what America seems to be preparing to embark upon is the most massive act of faith. Not since 1960, and the election of Jack Kennedy, has so much disbelief been suspended by so many in such a massive cause. If it does indeed translate into an Obama victory on Tuesday, further prayer may well be in order. Not long after Gold Diggers of 1933, I seem to remember, came The Grapes of Wrath.”

Note the end of the article

By: Marie

Marie — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:21:35 +0000

I have read the article from the Telegraph.co.uk paper. We truly must rely on God for his saving grace through Jesus, from “all of our sins”, especially in regard to area of “illgotten gain” ie., (living off of credit cards to finance purchases). My husband and I represent “mainstream middle class america”, financially we might be considered a little better off then average. During 2005. We had a brief time where all credit cards were at Zero Balances. All we had was the mortgage on the house. At the time we borrowed against our mortgage to “buy” a 5year old minivan. We struggle to pay bills. I have been pretty much unemployed for several months. I used to do temp work for clerical agencies. With our oldest son going to a local community college, and one child in Jr. High, I know my faith has been “stretched” this year. I am grateful, I believe God has been working in me in this area of trusting in his provision. I just recently have started working again, at a lower pay scale with fewer hours. The potential for increase will come with time. I know that when I put Christ in the equation my outlook is much better. Anyhow today is election day. Lets see what God has planned. My prayer is that people will turn to him for direction regardless as to who is elected. I have to get ready for work.
Have a Great Day.